What follows is my lengthy response to a rather brief question of a good Russian friend and reader, who asked me whether the widely publicized story of Tartaria (or Tartary), hypothetically located somewhere in the territory of today's Siberia before 7000 years, is a myth or a reality. The conversation took place in Russian, and this is a rough English translation duly revised by me.
The present article does not consist in a concisely written text; that's why I don't expand on Holy Rus as a blessed kingdom of the End of Time as per several eschatological traditions. But this topic is well known among many Russians. What I explain in my present article is precisely the fact that the extremely deceitful plot named 'Tartaria' was devised as one more Jesuit trickery against today's Russia.
Imiaslavie was a Jesuit invention
and a ploy to subjugate Imperial Russia. The essence of Name-slavery, namely
the idea that God's name is God himself, is the evil black magic of the
Jesuits. Hieromonk Anton/Alexander Bulatovich could not imagine what a terribly
evil net he had fallen into.
Thank God, Imiaslavie was persecuted
and destroyed.
The Tsarevich Alexei, surrounded by two Russian military officers and two foreign snakes – agents of the secret services of France (and of the French Freemasonry) and England (and of the Jesuit-controlled English pseudo-lodge) and heinous enemies of Russia; from left to right: Pierre Gilliard (academic and author, best known as the French language tutor to the five children of Emperor Nicholas II of Russia from 1905 to 1918), Major General Voyeikov, Tsarevich Alexis, Charles Sydney Gibbes (English academic who from 1908 to 1917 served as the English tutor to the children of Emperor Nicholas II of Russia; when Nicholas abdicated the throne in March 1917 Gibbes voluntarily accompanied the Imperial family into exile to the Siberian city of Tobolsk. After the family was murdered in 1918 Gibbes returned to the United Kingdom), Pyotr Vassilievich Petrov. About: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Gibbes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Gilliard
http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/fr-nicholas-gibbes-the-first-english-disciple-of-tsar-nicholas-ii-and-the-first-english-priest-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-outside-russia/
https://www.tumblr.com/annalaurendet70/652230218865590272/the-kindly-professor-pyotr-vasilievich-petrov
https://vk.com/wall119669589_24249
https://tsarnicholas.org/2025/04/04/those-who-served-the-tsar-vladimir-nikolaevich-voeikov-1868-1947/
During the final years of Nicholas II's reign, the Freemasons supported Kerensky and wanted to transform Russia into a copy of France.
But the Zionists were stronger and managed to overthrow Kerensky.
Nevertheless, the Freemasons managed to gain control of the Communists because, among the Bolsheviks, Lenin and Stalin were Freemasons, whereas Trotsky was a Zionist.
But the Jesuits' weapons were stronger and could last longer.
What was the Jesuit anti-Russian conspiracy of 1917?
Here is a list of several events.
But their true nature remains unknown.
The so-called "apparitions" of the Virgin Mary at Fátima, Portugal
The subsequent "three secrets" of Fátima
The so-called "Miracle of the Sun" at Fátima
And the "interpretation" of the third secret of Fátima as the so-called "consecration" of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope.
About:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1tima
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima#Third_secret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consecration_of_Russia_to_the_Immaculate_Heart_of_Mary
Do you know what "Consecration to Russia" means?
It's a code name for nothing less than... the Catholicization of Russia!
The Western intervention in Ukraine (after 1991, but also before, in moderate and repeated forms) has been a prelude to the so-called "Catholicization of Russia".
Ukraine was created in order to be gradually converted to Catholicism (everything else concerning the EU and NATO is secondary), and then be used as a base for the disintegration of Russia.
I say "the disintegration of Russia" because the "Catholicization of Russia" would mean the creation of several dozens of tiny, powerless, and dependent states.
Thank God, Putin responded, and history paused for a moment.
Don't think that forces like the Jesuits forget!
Their goals are forever.
Of course, an alliance between Putin and Trump is deeply shameful for the Jesuits. It could mean the ultimate destruction of their plans. But nothing is guaranteed, and even if something is arranged in Ukraine at Russia's demand, the danger will resurface if Trump is assassinated.
So, don't think anything is "definite," "established," or "achieved"!
Sorry, but all of this was just an introduction.
You should have kept all of this in mind, because all of these stories are simpler, closer in chronology, and easier to study.
You have already guessed my answer.
Like all stories, the lie about the so-called "Tartar Kingdom" was created to be used against Russia after the collapse of the central state in Moscow.
Your question is very poorly formulated.
This isn't about myth or reality.
This is a very important question about a lie that was deliberately created in order to separate Siberia from Russia when the central state in Moscow (which has always been an unpleasant reality for the Jesuits since the early 16th century) collapses.
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I will now continue and conclude my answer. I have already hinted that this topic could easily offer an author the opportunity to write a book refuting the absurd fallacy of the so-called "Tartary". So, I will try to be brief, but you are invited to ask me additional questions to further clarify the details if you want.
This story is much older than the Imiaslavie or the silly "Secrets" of Fatima, which have nothing to do with Christianity.
As you well know, people named "Tartars" don't exist!
There are only ........ "Tatars"!
The Tatars or Mongols were among the Turanian peoples who migrated from East to West across the Asian continent. I don't use the term "Eurasia" because "Europe" as a continent doesn't exist. This is a misconception, or, if you prefer, a fiction. West of the Urals, there is still the same land. Europe, if you prefer, is the most useless peninsula in Asia.
The Tatars and Mongols were a blessing to the Rus, because without them the Principality of Moscow and the Russian Tsardom would never have existed. But the Tatars and Mongols were most reviled (as early as the 13th century), and perhaps even earlier, by the then heretical priests of Rome, who launched attacks on Constantinople and the Eastern Roman Empire. These attacks were mistakenly called "Crusades." The Crusades were not undertaken against the Islamic Caliphate, as the Crusaders never considered attacking Baghdad or Medina.
The so-called Crusaders were not allowed to approach St. Catherine's Monastery on Sinai. The occupation of Jerusalem was merely a pretext. The primary goal was the destruction of Constantinople.
Anyone, who wishes to appreciate Rome's so-called "universal" appeal and goals, will fail unless he correctly understands the background of the schisms (867 and 1054).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photian_schism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism
The themes claimed as the causes of the schisms are merely a smokescreen. Related to this theme is the imperial division, namely the perverse attitude of the always heretical Rome to recognize Charlemagne as "Imperator Romanorum". This occurred in 800 CE. From that day on, a schism could be expected, because the only true Imperator Romanorum was the Basileus of Constantinople.
What happened in the year 800 should have been expected already in 752. Why? Because something terrible happened then! Due to the fact that the Eastern Roman Empire was so preoccupied with wars in the East and the Northeast, Rome violated the rules established by Justinian I in 537 CE. Only the Roman Emperor, namely the Basileus at Constantinople, was to govern the Empire and appoint the popes. Any pope, who was not appointed or accepted by the Emperor, was illegitimate. This is the fundamental difference between Caesaropapism (in the Eastern Roman Empire) and Papo-Caesarism in the territory of the fallen (476 CE) Western Roman Empire.
Papo-Caesarism is a satanic anomaly that arose from the fall of the Western Empire; this anomaly lasted only from 476 to 537 CE.
So, from 537 to 752 CE, the evil of the Benedictine heretics was brought under control, and they were unable to control Rome, elect the pope, and carry out their evil deeds.
In fact, the Benedictine heretics wanted to become independent from the authority of the Emperor of Constantinople and implement their evil and anti-Christian policies. Thus, they sought to control various small barbarian kingdoms and use them to impose their evil faith and secret plans. Thus, they gradually succeeded in gaining control of the Lombards, Franks, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, and many others, and ultimately turned them against the Eastern Roman Empire and Constantinople (1204).
Of course, the Benedictines, the Jesuits, and all the other powers behind the Vatican were well aware of what was happening in North and Northeast Asia, which is identical to what we now call Siberia. The history of the Turanian invasions is not what people today believe, following false historians and foolish academics. There is no such thing as a "period of invasions". Invasions were constant; sometimes they were large-scale, sometimes smaller. The region where it all began was located between Irkutsk, Ulaanbaatar, and Harbin. The direction was twofold:
either to the West, to Central Asia, Iran, and India (with an alternative direction from Central Asia to the plains of today's Russia, Ukraine, and Eastern Europe)
or to the south, i.e., to China.
So, you understand that the evil priests of Rome intended to exploit all those successive waves of Turanian nomads fleeing the land of the Tengrists—the shamanic Orthodoxy between Irkutsk and Harbin—in an attempt to live a pleasant, easy, and prosperous life.
The evil priests of Rome knew of the importance of North-Northeast Asia (that is, Siberia) in the End Times, when it was expected to become the region where humanity would survive. So, behind all the stories invented by the Benedictines and Jesuits about what you call Siberia lies the eschatological significance of Siberia, which, as you well know, is not exactly the territory of the Khanate of Sibir..
This is why those evil Roman priests, even back then (the 13th century), were sending their ambassadors and agents to parts of Central, Northern, and East Asia to endlessly plot to advance and implement their eschatological agenda, which they knew would take many centuries to achieve. Such secret orders and priesthoods view History quite differently and are never called upon to act before the right moment.
It was then that the original story about which you asked me about was created. They deliberately linked the ethnic name of the Tatars (and, consequently, their supposed land of origin, called "Tataria") with a crucial element of Ancient Greek mythology: "Tartara"!
Their trick is called "paretymology." Paretymology (or false etymology) is a linguistic term that describes the process by which people misinterpret the origin of a word and associate it with another, more familiar word due to its similarity in sound. This process often changes the form or meaning of the word to make it more "transparent" or logical to the speaker.
In case you're wondering, in English this is called "false etymology."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_etymology
In Russian it is called ....... Pseudoetymology.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Псевдоэтимология
This is the eerie location of "Tartarus" or "Tartaros" in ancient Greek mythology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus
This theme is not of ancient Greek origin; it is entirely Assyrian-Babylonian. All the ancient peoples of Mesopotamia used this name to describe the chaotic environment of the Western Desert and they attributed all sorts of demons and evil beings to it. And for a good reason: it was the dangerous location of the Tartar (or Tharthar) Depression, River and (in present times) Lake. This name existed in Assyrian-Babylonian texts and it has survived in Arabic to this day. Here is its location in Iraq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tharthar
https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_ath_Tharthar
I don't have much to add. I've concluded the initial, general discussion of this topic. Since you live in Russia, you may not have an idea of the scale of the "Tartarian" problem.
The widespread dissemination of this topic, the extensive bibliography that has already been compiled, and its use by many far-right, chauvinist, and ultra-nationalist circles in many Western countries indicate that certain "hidden" powerful individuals want idiots to believe that their most ancient ancestors originated in Eastern Siberia and that in the distant past they developed a civilization there more important than our own. By classifying this topic as a "conspiracy theory," Wikipedia makes it seem plausible, credible, and witty to all those naive individuals who try to find in an absurd lie confirmation of an origin far more important than their current misery and uselessness.
This entry is really a good account:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тартария
But look at this insidious strategy of the English Wikipedia! This article is so short, yet it covers historical topics!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartary
But this article about the conspiracy theory is much more comprehensive! This article has no Russian equivalent!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarian_Empire
My friend's comment
As a child, around 2000, I came across an alternative history textbook. It claimed the exact opposite: there were no Tatars or Mongols, and no yoke on Rus'. Furthermore, for some reason, maps from before 1814 haven't survived; the Schubert map from 1860 is popular. This all suggests, for example, that Napoleon was allied with Alexander I. But who were the allies against? And why did the war of 1812 even happen?
My final response
Do you understand what you are telling me?
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Jesuits began to spread among Russians themes that provoked division and a catastrophic perception of their own past.
But what you don't know is that the same "nonsense" is being presented to others in a different form! For example, there are Greeks who are paid to upload filthy and stupid videos in which they claim that the ancient Greeks originated from Tartary and that they developed a civilization there greater than the modern world.
Evil is preparing the next stages of lies at the appropriate time.
Over the past 600-800 years, World history has been a continuous lie.
But there is no such thing as an "alternative history".
Fomenko is a paid agent of Russia's enemies.
There is no "axis of resistance".
These names are marketing ploys used by various segments of the evil, colonial elite of the Western world: the Jesuits, the Freemasons, and the Zionists.
That's why they are so widespread.
Examples!! "TARTARY, CHINA, TIBET and Alexander the Great..."
https://arxeion-politismou.gr/2022/02/tartaria-thibet-kina.html
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ταρταρία
This idiot posts a video to provoke fanaticism among the Greeks, under the title: "The buildings of Tartary are 100% built in the ancient Greek style.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNRI0CTSvc
The Theory of the Great Comeback of the Tartarians: CIA Documents on Adam and Eve and on the Pole Shift Explained.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/10m1jad/the_tartarian_great_reset_theory_adam_and_eve_cia/?tl=el
Here you'll find countless videos in Greek—only!
But lies are spreading among Turks, Bulgarians, Armenians, Poles, Germans, and many Western nations.
https://www.google.com/search?num=10&newwindow=1&sca_esv=6a14ef6827f22cd2&sxsrf=ANbL-n5gve-jsc4688Y3BR-fMlot_rH-vg:1770670082941&udm=7&fbs=ADc_l-aw8GQiP3WM2p1MWEkYDOZu_wESsR48JYflYjsLtuAUcR4tsb8C5_G1_0IY7eHWBsirnjBqeKXMw4HvMmXU8B6K790P6y0gtxvve1bS4K7gClyFuenymUNemxTIyTDe1VpbLgLJr9t1ZKOK0OqxAKpMgHqiIcR-1Y91wYbDj5UvsI2Jx5CCUYxF0svRWsUkz1k7PtIL_485rJiIlRIB6LvweVFAOpC5T70PQxChe7tWGvlRrVs&q=Ταρταρία&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGkruKpM2SAxWxRvEDHXS6Jj8QtKgLegQIDhAB&biw=1365&bih=711&dpr=0.9#ip=1
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